[SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Scrum Other

[Michael Wollin [e-mail] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]]

I had a request from someone developing materials for online learning for the bank I’m consulting with. She’s looking for examples of Scrum use in banks outside of IT. I know there’s some buzz about using Scrum in marketing but I’m looking for other examples, maybe ones that bank middle managers will relate to.

Does anyone have any real world examples I can give her?

Thanks.

Michael

[srinivas chillara [e-mail] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]]

Not exactly Scrum, but Scrum-ish in approach, is "Beyond budgeting".... I'm fairly sure a Danish bank is using this a lot.

Dan Greening is quite knowledgable regarding this... so you can contact him and say I said so.
cheersSrinivas

From: "Michael Wollin ***@mercurysw.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" <***@yahoogroups.com>
To: ***@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 26 October 2018 10:52 AM
Subject: [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Scrum Other

  I had a request from someone developing materials for online learning for the bank I’m consulting with. She’s looking for examples of Scrum use in banks outside of IT. I know there’s some buzz about using Scrum in marketing but I’m looking for other examples, maybe ones that bank middle managers will relate to.

Does anyone have any real world examples I can give her?

Thanks.

Michael
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 we used scrum to archive bank information.


-----Original Message-----
From: srinivas chillara ***@yahoo.co.in [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] <***@yahoogroups.com>
To: ***@yahoogroups.com <***@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Oct 27, 2018 1:28 am
Subject: Re: [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Scrum Other

  Not exactly Scrum, but Scrum-ish in approach, is "Beyond budgeting".... I'm fairly sure a Danish bank is using this a lot.

Dan Greening is quite knowledgable regarding this... so you can contact him and say I said so.
cheersSrinivas

From: "Michael Wollin ***@mercurysw.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" <***@yahoogroups.com>
To: ***@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 26 October 2018 10:52 AM
Subject: [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Scrum Other

  I had a request from someone developing materials for online learning for the bank I’m consulting with. She’s looking for examples of Scrum use in banks outside of IT. I know there’s some buzz about using Scrum in marketing but I’m looking for other examples, maybe ones that bank middle managers will relate to.

Does anyone have any real world examples I can give her?

Thanks.

Michael


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[Michael Wollin [e-mail] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]]

That’s perfect. Please DO share details!!!

Post by ***@aol.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
we used scrum to archive bank information.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sat, Oct 27, 2018 1:28 am
Subject: Re: [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Scrum Other
Not exactly Scrum, but Scrum-ish in approach, is "Beyond budgeting".... I'm fairly sure a Danish bank is using this a lot.
Dan Greening is quite knowledgable regarding this... so you can contact him and say I said so.
cheers
Srinivas
Sent: Friday, 26 October 2018 10:52 AM
Subject: [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Scrum Other
I had a request from someone developing materials for online learning for the bank I’m consulting with. She’s looking for examples of Scrum use in banks outside of IT. I know there’s some buzz about using Scrum in marketing but I’m looking for other examples, maybe ones that bank middle managers will relate to.
Does anyone have any real world examples I can give her?
Thanks.
Michael

[Dan Greening [e-mail] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]]

Beyond Budgeting seems to be best designed for entities wider than software
engineering departments, and in my experience it is kind of an extended
polemic designed to get finance departments to go back to square one, think
about why they are budgeting, think about adapting rapidly to change, and
make sure they don’t sacrifice profitability goals on the chopping board of
finance. Of course, many finance departments need to be shaken out of their
stupor, so this is useful. But it doesn’t seem to be “a recipe.” That would
make sense, since Beyond Budgeting seeks to address whole companies, and
whole companies are widely varying.

Scaling software agility correctly, meaning that you throw out silos of
assigned engineers under specific product budgets, gives you tremendous
opportunity to get budgeting, in software, highly adaptive, too. However,
if your organization is not willing to do that, it will be your first major
barrier to getting an agile budgeting approach to work. I have made this
work. You can see hints of it in a paper I wrote, “Enterprise Scrum:
Scaling Scrum to the Executive Level.” That casé study was the largest
early implementation of ***@Scale, and ***@S lends itself extremely well to
agile budgeting. No surprise, since I tend to be buddy-buddy with finance
departments. (And now that it has a name, I’m a ***@S trainer.)

If I got anything wrong, especially regarding Beyond Budgeting, would love
to hear your thoughts.

Really appreciate the mention, Srinivas. Hope all of you, my respected
peers, are doing great.

Dan

Post by Michael Wollin ***@mercurysw.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
That’s perfect. Please DO share details!!!
we used scrum to archive bank information.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sat, Oct 27, 2018 1:28 am
Subject: Re: [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Scrum Other
Not exactly Scrum, but Scrum-ish in approach, is "Beyond budgeting"....
I'm fairly sure a Danish bank is using this a lot.
Dan Greening is quite knowledgable regarding this... so you can contact
him and say I said so.
cheers
Srinivas
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*Sent:* Friday, 26 October 2018 10:52 AM
*Subject:* [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Scrum Other
I had a request from someone developing materials for online learning for
the bank I’m consulting with. She’s looking for examples of Scrum use in
banks outside of IT. I know there’s some buzz about using Scrum in
marketing but I’m looking for other examples, maybe ones that bank middle
managers will relate to.
Does anyone have any real world examples I can give her?
Thanks.
Michael

[Pierre Neis [e-mail] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]]

Hmm, Scrum in the Banking industry isnÂŽt an issue at all, it depends what
you are looking for?

Projects, Programs in IT are quite the same everywhere may be the challenge
of integrating core banking system or real-time transactions are, then you
can find plenty of cases. Personally, I worked for Euroclear (Bank of
banks, clearing), design the agile part of the Digital Transformation of
BNPParibas, Lombard Odier Private Bank, SAP Corporate Finance including
Global Treasury, Banque de Luxembourg, and a couple more, even Trading and
Asset Management & Hedge Funds.

Beyond Budgeting is something different that has been used and tested since
over 40 years in Swedish Banks like Sparbank or Handelsbanken as the core
management system. Case were available on bbrt.org

Pierre E. NEIS
*senior agile coach*
*agile² GmbH*
m: [phone]
a: 69115 Heidelberg - Germany
w: www.agilesqr.com
<https://www.facebook.com/pierre.neis> <https://twitter.com/elpedromajor>
<https://de.linkedin.com/in/pierreneis>


s

Post by Dan Greening ***@greening.org [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
Beyond Budgeting seems to be best designed for entities wider than
software engineering departments, and in my experience it is kind of an
extended polemic designed to get finance departments to go back to square
one, think about why they are budgeting, think about adapting rapidly to
change, and make sure they don’t sacrifice profitability goals on the
chopping board of finance. Of course, many finance departments need to be
shaken out of their stupor, so this is useful... But it doesn’t seem to be “a
recipe.” That would make sense, since Beyond Budgeting seeks to address
whole companies, and whole companies are widely varying.
Scaling software agility correctly, meaning that you throw out silos of
assigned engineers under specific product budgets, gives you tremendous
opportunity to get budgeting, in software, highly adaptive, too. However,
if your organization is not willing to do that, it will be your first major
barrier to getting an agile budgeting approach to work. I have made this
Scaling Scrum to the Executive Level.” That casé study was the largest
to agile budgeting. No surprise, since I tend to be buddy-buddy with
If I got anything wrong, especially regarding Beyond Budgeting, would love
to hear your thoughts.
Really appreciate the mention, Srinivas. Hope all of you, my respected
peers, are doing great.
Dan

Post by Michael Wollin ***@mercurysw.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
That’s perfect. Please DO share details!!!
we used scrum to archive bank information.
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sat, Oct 27, 2018 1:28 am
Subject: Re: [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Scrum Other
Not exactly Scrum, but Scrum-ish in approach, is "Beyond budgeting"......
I'm fairly sure a Danish bank is using this a lot.
Dan Greening is quite knowledgable regarding this... so you can contact
him and say I said so.
cheers
Srinivas
------------------------------
*Sent:* Friday, 26 October 2018 10:52 AM
*Subject:* [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Scrum Other
I had a request from someone developing materials for online learning for
the bank I’m consulting with. She’s looking for examples of Scrum use in
banks outside of IT. I know there’s some buzz about using Scrum in
marketing but I’m looking for other examples, maybe ones that bank middle
managers will relate to...
Does anyone have any real world examples I can give her?
Thanks.
Michael
--

Dan R. Greening — http://dan.greening.org http://linkedin.com/in/greening

[Tim Wright [e-mail] [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]]

Probably not directly useful, but some of my friends use scrum techniques
to help their romantic relationships. I asked them about it and they gave
me a link to this podcast.

https://www.multiamory.com/podcast/147-relationship-radar-scrum-20

Tim
--
Tim
021 251 5593
http://www.linkedin.com/in/drtimwright

Post by Michael Wollin ***@mercurysw.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
I had a request from someone developing materials for online learning for
the bank I’m consulting with. She’s looking for examples of Scrum use in
banks outside of IT. I know there’s some buzz about using Scrum in
marketing but I’m looking for other examples, maybe ones that bank middle
managers will relate to.
Does anyone have any real world examples I can give her?
Thanks.
Michael