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[SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Open (free) Product Owner Assessment
ken.schwaber@verizon.net [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-18 12:54:58 UTC
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What does a product owner do? What attributes make for a good Product Owner? What does a Product Owner do when ..... ?


Take a quick test. See how your impressions of product ownership match with mine.


The test/assessment is free and open to anyone. http://bit.ly/1IS6bfJ


Let me know what you think.


Ken
alan.gladman@intel.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-18 13:23:50 UTC
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Works well Ken. It timed out on me on question 14 and I had 13 minutes left according to the page. Server must have been busy at the time. But even that worked out well as I simply clicked the back button and it allowed me to continue without losing all of my previous responses.

I'll share with my scrum masters and POs.
Thanks
Alan
Daniel Brockman Dan@DanielBrockman.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-18 13:28:43 UTC
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I want to see Scrum and agile methods generally become prevalent where
appropriate, especially in decision and administrative environments. I
believe in iterative processes.

It's been several years since I studied Scrum. I haven't used it formally,
though it's been quite helpful in providing a template of communication
with teams of people who have encountered it elsewhere.

Product Owner is my usual and best role.

But that's not my job title, nor do I think of myself as the "owner" of the
subject of projects and workstreams in my domain of responsibility. The
test is jargon-laden. I feel I know the concepts but not many of the names
applied to them. I don't have the dictionary that translates the words into
their meanings, even though I know the meanings. "Technical Debt", "Value
Points" and "Product Owner", for example. These concepts existed decades or
even centuries before these particular terms were invented. Surely, Scrum
depends more on the meanings of these terms than on the use of these
particular words.

I suggest some careful rewording of the questions to use more common terms.
Perhaps a prefatory sentence or two could precede some of the questions.

Overall, I think the test is a good idea. It attracted my attention and
pointed out a few places where I might profitably brush up my knowledge.

Dan
Post by ***@verizon.net [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
What does a product owner do? What attributes make for a good Product
Owner? What does a Product Owner do when ..... ?
Take a quick test. See how your impressions of product ownership match with mine.
The test/assessment is free and open to anyone. <http://bit.ly/1IS6bfJ>
Let me know what you think.
Ken
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John Chapman jchapman1024@gmail.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-18 13:56:13 UTC
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Hi Ken,

I found the open assessment for PO to be meaningful and on point, unlike
the Scrum Practitioner Open, which has a number of convoluted questions.

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Post by ***@verizon.net [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
What does a product owner do? What attributes make for a good Product
Owner? What does a Product Owner do when ..... ?
Take a quick test. See how your impressions of product ownership match with mine.
The test/assessment is free and open to anyone. <http://bit.ly/1IS6bfJ>
Let me know what you think.
Ken
'Simon Roberts' sjroberts@gmail.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-18 14:17:36 UTC
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Hi,




I found it to be a good test of the basics of product ownership. I was specially glad to see emphasis on getting feedback from customers to validate assumptions and that the PO has to take the TCO into consideration. And of course I was delighted to see that my understanding of product ownership aligns with yours. Not surprising since I had you as a teacher a long time ago :)





Best regards,




Simon
Post by John Chapman ***@gmail.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
Hi Ken,
I found the open assessment for PO to be meaningful and on point, unlike
the Scrum Practitioner Open, which has a number of convoluted questions.
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Post by ***@verizon.net [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
What does a product owner do? What attributes make for a good Product
Owner? What does a Product Owner do when ..... ?
Take a quick test. See how your impressions of product ownership match with mine.
The test/assessment is free and open to anyone. <http://bit.ly/1IS6bfJ>
Let me know what you think.
Ken
jimmy pike pycoprod@yahoo.com.au [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-19 14:38:21 UTC
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Have Maths Hobby .
Have solved being to make Empty  Board  to  9 X 9  Sudoku Game 
Would appreciate name for this please ?????
                                                    Jimmy  Pike 


On Wednesday, 19 August 2015, 0:17, "'Simon Roberts' ***@gmail.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]" <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


  Hi,
I found it to be a good test of the basics of product ownership. I was specially glad to see emphasis on getting feedback from customers to validate assumptions and that the PO has to take the TCO into consideration. And of course I was delighted to see that my understanding of product ownership aligns with yours. Not surprising since I had you as a teacher a long time ago :)
Best regards,
Simon


On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 4:57 PM, John Chapman ***@gmail.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  Hi Ken,
I found the open assessment for PO to be meaningful and on point, unlike the Scrum Practitioner Open, which has a number of convoluted questions.
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 8:54 AM, ***@verizon.net [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  What does a product owner do? What attributes make for a good Product Owner? What does a Product Owner do when ..... ?
Take a quick test. See how your impressions of product ownership match with mine. 
The test/assessment is free and open to anyone. 
Let me know what you think.
Ken



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Ioan Raluca Nicoleta raluca.ioan@yahoo.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-18 14:11:15 UTC
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Wors well. I could take the test without any server problems.


Regarding the content, I find it too easy, even for a basic test. The questions are explicit and well formulated, but the correct answer is obvious, the wrong answers are too far away from the question.


I will distribute the test in my teams and ask their opinion.


Best regards,
Raluca Bejan


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Post by ***@verizon.net [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
What does a product owner do? What attributes make for a good Product Owner? What does a Product Owner do when ..... ?
Take a quick test. See how your impressions of product ownership match with mine.
The test/assessment is free and open to anyone. http://bit.ly/1IS6bfJ
Let me know what you think.
Ken
pavex2@email.cz [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-18 14:58:28 UTC
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Thanks for test.


Is there any possibility of certification?
(I do not overestimate the value of certification, but in my region, it is
sometimes required from customers .....)

Martin Pavíček
(translator of part of scrum guide into czech language).
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What does a product owner do? What attributes make for a good Product Owner?
What does a Product Owner do when ..... ?




Take a quick test. See how your impressions of product ownership match with
mine. 




The test/assessment is free and open to anyone. (http://bit.ly/1IS6bfJ)




Let me know what you think.




Ken






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Ron Jeffries ronjeffries@acm.org [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-18 15:14:05 UTC
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Ken, I am happy to report that that you have it exactly right! :)

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Post by ***@verizon.net [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
Take a quick test. See how your impressions of product ownership match with mine.
Ron Jeffries
ronjeffries.com <http://ronjeffries.com/>
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Inside I am screaming and have a machine gun.
Yin and Yang I figure.
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Ralph Jocham rjocham72@yahoo.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-18 17:52:03 UTC
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Ken, glad to see all the positive feedback.
Happy to have initiated it :)

-- Ralph

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Post by ***@verizon.net [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
What does a product owner do? What attributes make for a good Product Owner? What does a Product Owner do when ..... ?
Take a quick test. See how your impressions of product ownership match with mine.
The test/assessment is free and open to anyone.
Let me know what you think.
Ken
Michael Wollin yahoo@mercurysw.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-18 18:40:38 UTC
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Title:
Points:
Percentage:
Duration:
Date started:
Date finished:
Product Owner Open
14 out of 15
93.3%
00:06:35
Tue 18th Aug 2015 2:29pm
Tue 18th Aug 2015 2:35pm
6.5 minutes. Missed one. :( I didn’t have it that the PO was required in the retrospective.
I like this tool, and I’m not just saying that because I did well. This could be expanded to include SM and team roles. I would use it in my training classes!
Thanks for putting this out there.

Michael
Post by ***@verizon.net [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
What does a product owner do? What attributes make for a good Product Owner? What does a Product Owner do when ..... ?
Take a quick test. See how your impressions of product ownership match with mine.
The test/assessment is free and open to anyone.  <http://bit.ly/1IS6bfJ>
Let me know what you think.
Ken
Ravi Vajaria ravivajaria@hotmail.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-18 20:25:04 UTC
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I tried twice. Got tricked by one question on pre-requisites for starting the sprint planning meeting...yes, there are no pre-requisites but I would say at least the participants should agree to have a business objective and purpose prior to the meeting. In other words, although we don't know now, we do want to go in the meeting with the intention that by end of the planning we want to know what business value we are trying to give by end of sprint.

Overall, very helpful. Highlighting for PO to stay focused on optimizing the value of work done by the team, what is important to stakeholders and stress on "what" than "how"

...Ravi.

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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 05:54:58 -0700
Subject: [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Open (free) Product Owner Assessment














































What does a product owner do? What attributes make for a good Product Owner? What does a Product Owner do when ..... ?




Take a quick test. See how your impressions of product ownership match with mine.




The test/assessment is free and open to anyone.




Let me know what you think.




Ken
Rajaraman Kannan leokannan@gmail.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-18 22:33:17 UTC
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Thanks Ken for sharing . It is really helpful to reaffirm some of the learnings on Scrum.


Cheers


Kannan
Post by Ravi Vajaria ***@hotmail.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
I tried twice. Got tricked by one question on pre-requisites for starting the sprint planning meeting...yes, there are no pre-requisites but I would say at least the participants should agree to have a business objective and purpose prior to the meeting. In other words, although we don't know now, we do want to go in the meeting with the intention that by end of the planning we want to know what business value we are trying to give by end of sprint.
Overall, very helpful. Highlighting for PO to stay focused on optimizing the value of work done by the team, what is important to stakeholders and stress on "what" than "how"
...Ravi.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 05:54:58 -0700
Subject: [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Open (free) Product Owner Assessment
What does a product owner do? What attributes make for a good Product Owner? What does a Product Owner do when ..... ?
Take a quick test. See how your impressions of product ownership match with mine.
The test/assessment is free and open to anyone.
Let me know what you think.
Ken
ken.schwaber@verizon.net [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-19 13:32:58 UTC
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I'm glad we got it to you.
gary_pitt@yahoo.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-19 07:44:14 UTC
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Ken,

Thank you for inviting feedback. This is the first occasion I honestly feel I can contribute.


I have recently taken on a mantle in a new consulting position here in a country where Agile uptake is proving to be definitely way behind global trend (South Africa) - that of an Agile proponent, trainer to our resources regarding Agile and Scrum basics and an adviser to our management / sales resources approaching new client contracts on Agile adoption.


With that in mind and having been through a practical experience as a tester in a large corporate development team using a mature Agile / Scrum approach, I was truly grateful to see your post and take this 'test'. Whilst my score was not quite at your pass mark, I was gratified to learn from taking the test that all that I practically absorbed whilst working in the mature team is accurately reflected in your test questions and the explanation of what I didn't answer correctly. So, a great affirmation to me regarding what I try to communicate about the role of being the PO.


My experience tells me that we are experiencing many of the basic original issues when trying to motivate companies to move their IT development forward. I think our biggest inhibitor here is truly the change of culture / attitude.


I hope that the link to your test will remain available for some time to come in order to allow me to continue to use the link to your test when I train and advise others? Thanking you in advance.


Gary Pitt
+27 82 561 3635
Michael James mj4scrum@gmail.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-19 14:43:18 UTC
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Ken, I also hope you will leave this up.

—mj
(Michael)
Post by ***@verizon.net [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
What does a product owner do? What attributes make for a good Product Owner? What does a Product Owner do when ..... ?
Take a quick test. See how your impressions of product ownership match with mine.
The test/assessment is free and open to anyone.  <http://bit.ly/1IS6bfJ>
Let me know what you think.
Ken
Wouter Lagerweij wouter@lagerweij.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-19 15:28:51 UTC
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Product Owner Open
13 out of 15
86.7%

The two I got wrong:

- Must the Product Owner be present at the Sprint Retrospective?
I didn't think so:-) Best if that can be done, some situations where that
relationship wasn't yet at a level that people felt free enough. So there
I'd do it on invite.

- Who creates the definition of "Done"?
This one was confusing to me... In complete inconsistency with my opinion
above, I actually think that a PO has some say in the DoD. I also think
this is something that originates with the scrum team, and can be different
between teams even within one organisation. Frankly, 'the development
organisation' doesn't mean that much to me in a Scrum context.
Also 'common denominator' could be an issue for non-native speakers.

Wouter
Post by ***@verizon.net [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
What does a product owner do? What attributes make for a good Product
Owner? What does a Product Owner do when ..... ?
Take a quick test. See how your impressions of product ownership match with mine.
The test/assessment is free and open to anyone. <http://bit.ly/1IS6bfJ>
Let me know what you think.
Ken
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Michael James mj4scrum@gmail.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-19 16:07:53 UTC
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Frankly, 'the development organisation' doesn't mean that much to me in a Scrum context.
I guess this means it wouldn’t work for Team A to skip unit testing while Team B insists on it in the same code base. There must be a clearer way to say that though.

—mj
(Michael)
Eric Gunnerson Eric.Gunnerson@microsoft.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-19 17:26:24 UTC
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Hmm. There are two alternatives here:


1) Decide the definition of “done done” at the development organization level


2) Let each team decide what “done done” means

I don’t like the first approach much; “development organization” means “management” in a lot of places, and the biggest power of “done done” is that a teams defines it as a group, holds themselves to it, and updates it as they learn. Having something imposed means that you lose the team empowerment, you lose it as an exercise for team-building, and – most important – you lose the opportunity for teams to experiment their way into better processes.

When I read something like, “one team is doing unit testing and another isn’t”, my initial reaction is “that is going to be problematic”. My second reaction is, “it’s going to be interesting to see how big an issues it will be in practice and how *the teams* figure out to address it”. My guess is that they will probably come up with a good solution on their own – or perhaps with a little facilitation. And they will learn about working with each other, the value of looking at what other teams are doing, and my guess is that they’ll do it without a lot of process. I would not be surprised to see the team that chose to add “unit tests” to “done done” actively working to train other teams how to do it, and if they can do that themselves, it will be great for the org.

A homogenous world – where teams have very similar process – is a simple world, and that makes is alluring. But the innovations that drive teams and organizations forward come from a heterogenous approach, and a lot of the big wins are elimination of process that the team doesn’t need any more. If that process is defined at a larger scope, it’s much less likely the team can get rid of it.

Or, to put it another way, I’m willing to tolerate a fair bit of chaos and differences between teams to give them the ability to experiment their way out of the old and slow ways of the past and into better ways. I trust that teams are going to generally make good choices, and I’m pretty sure they’ll discover things like, “If we write better unit tests, we can stop running the huge integration suite that everybody hates before every checkin” or “Pairing is great because we do continuous code review and therefore don’t have to wait for code reviewers before we check in”.

Eric
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On Aug 19, 2015, at 8:28 AM, Wouter Lagerweij ***@lagerweij.com<mailto:***@lagerweij.com> [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] <***@yahoogroups.com<mailto:***@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

Frankly, 'the development organisation' doesn't mean that much to me in a Scrum context.

I guess this means it wouldn’t work for Team A to skip unit testing while Team B insists on it in the same code base. There must be a clearer way to say that though.

—mj
(Michael)
'Steve Ash' steve@ootac.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-19 16:40:36 UTC
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13/15 – no problems with the ones I got wrong – not thinking it through enough!



However, the congratulations were for knowing some Scrum basics; a few of the questions I would have thought were somewhat beyond basic. TCO, KPIs – just 2 topics I don’t remember seeing in the Scrum Guide!



I shall use it with the POs that I mentor



Steve



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What does a product owner do? What attributes make for a good Product Owner? What does a Product Owner do when ..... ?



Take a quick test. See how your impressions of product ownership match with mine.



The test/assessment is free and open to anyone. <http://bit.ly/1IS6bfJ>



Let me know what you think.



Ken
Christofer Jennings boz.lists@gmail.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-20 02:31:18 UTC
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What I learned is that I shouldn’t take exams while also watching a movie and drinking a beer
. I missed every “Select two answers” questions except the one that explicitly said, "Select two answers.” 
 :)


It’s hard to make questionnaires well. This one does a pretty darn good job. 
 Hopefully I’m not just biased by my respect for the author.


The only thing I’d change is making the “Select two answers” questions more explicit.


Thanks!
-Chris


ps: I had to chuckle that someone would want this to include certification. :) No offense. I understand because I have certifications that are just that. But it’s still funny. 
 Hey. Come to think of it. Could this save me $1200???!!!! ;)
Post by ***@verizon.net [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
What does a product owner do? What attributes make for a good Product Owner? What does a Product Owner do when ..... ?
Take a quick test. See how your impressions of product ownership match with mine.
The test/assessment is free and open to anyone.  <http://bit.ly/1IS6bfJ>
Let me know what you think.
Ken
ken.schwaber@verizon.net [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-20 23:03:35 UTC
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The Product Owner open is only the newest, free assessment for testing your understanding. There are three other open, free assessments at Open Assessments | Scrum.org - The home of Scrum https://www.scrum.org/Assessments/Open-Assessments

https://www.scrum.org/Assessments/Open-Assessments

Open Assessments | Scrum.org - The home of S... https://www.scrum.org/Assessments/Open-Assessments


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1. Scrum .... test your overall Scrum knowledge
2. Developer ... test your knowledge of iterative development that delivers "done" increments by teams.
3. Practitioner ... test your knowledge of modern software development and scaling practices


Good hunting.
Ken
Charles Bradley - Professional Scrum Trainer and Coach chuck-lists2@emailchuck.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-24 21:30:34 UTC
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I will also add that Gunther Verheyen and others at Scrum.org have put together two fantastic glossaries:
https://www.scrum.org/Resources/Scrum-Glossary
(Professional Scrum Developer Glossary)
https://www.scrum.org/Resources/PSD-Glossary

I can tell you that even conflicting understandings of trainers are sometimes solved once one returns back to the definitions in these glossaries.  Great resources! -------
Charles Bradley
Chief Executive Officer
Professional Scrum Trainer
http://AgileSoftwareTraining.com
Agile Software - Training, Consulting, Coaching

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 1. Scrum .... test your overall Scrum knowledge2. Developer ... test your knowledge of iterative development that delivers "done" increments by teams.3. Practitioner ... test your knowledge of modern software development and scaling practices
Good hunting.Ken
Diana Larsen diana@futureworksconsulting.com [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
2015-08-25 23:15:16 UTC
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Bethany,

You or others might like to give this a try.

Diana

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Diana Larsen
http://futureworksconsulting.com
Envisioning a world where everyone at every level of the organization can say, "I love my work; this is the best job EVER!"
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Post by ***@verizon.net [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT]
What does a product owner do? What attributes make for a good Product Owner? What does a Product Owner do when ..... ?
Take a quick test. See how your impressions of product ownership match with mine.
The test/assessment is free and open to anyone.  <http://bit.ly/1IS6bfJ>
Let me know what you think.
Ken
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